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	<title>Comments on: Using the iPhone Overseas for Data Purposes</title>
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		<title>By: How iPhone users can save money overseas - Alt+Save with the Gadgetress - OCRegister.com</title>
		<link>http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20070719/using-the-iphone-overseas-for-data-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>How iPhone users can save money overseas - Alt+Save with the Gadgetress - OCRegister.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rod Borghese</title>
		<link>http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20070719/using-the-iphone-overseas-for-data-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Borghese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any news anywhere about when the iPhone is coming to Canada ? I know we are not overseas - but what gives ???
  http://www.Apple-iPhone-Canada.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any news anywhere about when the iPhone is coming to Canada ? I know we are not overseas &#8211; but what gives ???<br />
  <a href="http://www.Apple-iPhone-Canada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Apple-iPhone-Canada.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Felix Salmon</title>
		<link>http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20070719/using-the-iphone-overseas-for-data-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of things about the international data plan not mentioned in this column:

1) The $24.99/month plan binds you to a one-year contract, and there&#039;s a $175 early termination fee.

2) Without that plan, international data anywhere costs $0.195/kb.

3) JaJah doesn&#039;t help when you&#039;re roaming internationally, even if you have wifi, because the rates for incoming calls are the same as the rates for outgoing calls.

Also, remember to be very careful what buttons you press when you&#039;re roaming internationally. If you press the Mail button by mistake, there&#039;s a very good chance you&#039;ll download your last 50 emails -- and that&#039;s an operation which can&#039;t be cancelled.

One question: Does anybody know how much data the Google Maps function uses? That&#039;s the real killer app when you&#039;re travelling internationally, and of course the whole point of the directions etc is that you use the cellular data rather than wifi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things about the international data plan not mentioned in this column:</p>
<p>1) The $24.99/month plan binds you to a one-year contract, and there&#8217;s a $175 early termination fee.</p>
<p>2) Without that plan, international data anywhere costs $0.195/kb.</p>
<p>3) JaJah doesn&#8217;t help when you&#8217;re roaming internationally, even if you have wifi, because the rates for incoming calls are the same as the rates for outgoing calls.</p>
<p>Also, remember to be very careful what buttons you press when you&#8217;re roaming internationally. If you press the Mail button by mistake, there&#8217;s a very good chance you&#8217;ll download your last 50 emails &#8212; and that&#8217;s an operation which can&#8217;t be cancelled.</p>
<p>One question: Does anybody know how much data the Google Maps function uses? That&#8217;s the real killer app when you&#8217;re travelling internationally, and of course the whole point of the directions etc is that you use the cellular data rather than wifi.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Chan</title>
		<link>http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20070719/using-the-iphone-overseas-for-data-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To avoid international data roaming charges, is there any way to turn off wireless/EDGE access so that the iPhone will only operate off of Wi-Fi?  Short of removing the SIM card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To avoid international data roaming charges, is there any way to turn off wireless/EDGE access so that the iPhone will only operate off of Wi-Fi?  Short of removing the SIM card.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mitnick</title>
		<link>http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20070719/using-the-iphone-overseas-for-data-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mitnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an email I just got from a colleague:

&gt; Mossberg&#039;s mission statement for this column:
&gt; 
&gt; &quot;There&#039;s no other major item most of us own that is as confusing,
&gt; unpredictable and unreliable as our personal computers. 
&gt; Everybody has
&gt; questions about them, and we aim to help.&quot;
&gt; 
&gt; And here are the titles of his most recent columns:
&gt; 
&gt; * Using the iPhone Overseas for Data Purposes
&gt; 
&gt; * Comparing the Treo and BlackBerry
&gt; 
&gt; * Questions About Apple&#039;s iPhone
&gt; 
&gt; * Printing Wirelessly from a Digital Camera
&gt; 
&gt; * Is Security Prudent for a Smart Phone?
&gt; 
&gt; What about our confusing, unpredictable and unreliable COMPUTERS???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an email I just got from a colleague:</p>
<p>&gt; Mossberg&#8217;s mission statement for this column:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &#8220;There&#8217;s no other major item most of us own that is as confusing,<br />
&gt; unpredictable and unreliable as our personal computers.<br />
&gt; Everybody has<br />
&gt; questions about them, and we aim to help.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; And here are the titles of his most recent columns:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; * Using the iPhone Overseas for Data Purposes<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; * Comparing the Treo and BlackBerry<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; * Questions About Apple&#8217;s iPhone<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; * Printing Wirelessly from a Digital Camera<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; * Is Security Prudent for a Smart Phone?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; What about our confusing, unpredictable and unreliable COMPUTERS???</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Vanlerberghe</title>
		<link>http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20070719/using-the-iphone-overseas-for-data-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Vanlerberghe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overseas data roaming rates are indeed insane. And it&#039;s not only AT&amp;T. I spent less than 2 weeks in Europe in June and got hit with a $643.21 T-Mobile bill mainly because of overseas data charges: 23.74 Megabytes cost me $356.11

Oh, and when calling their customer service department, they wouldn&#039;t waive or heavily reduce those fees because I was on a contract with them for another year anyways and it would cost me $200 in early termination fees if I wanted to cancel.

It&#039;s no wonder people hate wireless carriers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overseas data roaming rates are indeed insane. And it&#8217;s not only AT&amp;T. I spent less than 2 weeks in Europe in June and got hit with a $643.21 T-Mobile bill mainly because of overseas data charges: 23.74 Megabytes cost me $356.11</p>
<p>Oh, and when calling their customer service department, they wouldn&#8217;t waive or heavily reduce those fees because I was on a contract with them for another year anyways and it would cost me $200 in early termination fees if I wanted to cancel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder people hate wireless carriers.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lilly</title>
		<link>http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20070719/using-the-iphone-overseas-for-data-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 03:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For overseas roaming, here&#039;s what I&#039;m going to do (that AT&amp;T claims will work). I&#039;m going to take the SIM out of my iPhone and put it into my Blackberry Pearl -- on which I&#039;ve got the $70/month international roaming plan -- unlimited data included. AT&amp;T has said that will work for the moment for both voice &amp; data, then I&#039;ll use my iPhone as a WiFi enabled iPod. 

It&#039;s messy, obviously, and expensive to keep 2 devices, not to mention the plan, but hopefully will work. I&#039;ll post an update to my own blog when I find out, as there&#039;s not much info around about this. Great info here, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For overseas roaming, here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m going to do (that AT&amp;T claims will work). I&#8217;m going to take the SIM out of my iPhone and put it into my Blackberry Pearl &#8212; on which I&#8217;ve got the $70/month international roaming plan &#8212; unlimited data included. AT&amp;T has said that will work for the moment for both voice &amp; data, then I&#8217;ll use my iPhone as a WiFi enabled iPod. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s messy, obviously, and expensive to keep 2 devices, not to mention the plan, but hopefully will work. I&#8217;ll post an update to my own blog when I find out, as there&#8217;s not much info around about this. Great info here, though!</p>
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